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PostSubject: Amazing photo   Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:14 pm

Hi All

I have been sent an image from some of our friends in Germany who run the Paranormale forschungsgruppe Niederrein .

On Saturday the 5th of February 2011, the "Paranormale Forschungsgruppe Niederrhein" (Paranormal Research Team Niederrhein)/Germany conducted an investigation in a Kasemate (which is the term used for an underground tunnel system or underground fortification) in the Kleve area. They have been requested to keep the location undisclosed for the time being.
The pictures were taken in one of the tunnels. where they had set up two cameras, pointing in the direction of the exit where the photos were later taken.
One after the other they left the tunnel and climbed up the stairs to the exit. Gabi stayed behind and took three more pictures. There was nobody else in the tunnel, other than Gabi at the time of the photo being taken
After they left the tunnel, they stayed upstairs for approx. 12 minutes, then we went back down to pack away thier equipment, at the time of these pictures being taken there were no Infrared cameras in use.


I have personaly talked to the Tech manager of this group and he has explained the circumstances to me , if any one has any questions dont hesitate to contact Gabi or michael

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http://www.p-f-n.de/

I must say that i think that this is an excellent catch , well done to Gabi's team for catching this .


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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:37 am

Hi Ian
yeah really good picture....very dark figure stood there. stands out and you can tell its a person..looks as if its checking that everyone is leaving and its safe to come out as if peeking around the corner creepy stuff
But this is a great photo!
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:05 pm

Hi Ian

I have to agree that this is an excellent photo and an amazing capture.

Sheena x
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:05 pm

Brilliant catch.. and posted up on ATS
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread660675/pg1

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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:06 pm

great picture!

Will they have a chance to go back and try to recreate it?
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:43 pm

Hallo everybody,

my name ich Michaél and I'm the Tech manager of the PFN.
@JoJok Yes we can do a second investigation on this Location.

This picture that you can see is NOT edited that's the original picture. I upload now the videos, who can prove that no one has been in the casemates.

Sorry for my bad english but i give my best.^^

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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:04 pm

Hi Michael

Thanks for your post , i know that your picture is not edited , i know you well enough to be able to say that you wouldn't dare do something like that lol.
The video footage will reveal all i hope .


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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:20 pm

Cant explain that one!
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:18 pm

Awesome picture,, cant wait for the Vids. Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:46 pm

Sweet Smile Robb's stumped too Smile

Michael, we and many others are eagerly waiting for any video evidence you can provide..
Even if it shows nothing, we are still left with this very nice picture.

Video supporting the picture is a good device in order for us to examine the entire situation.

I so hope you've caught it on video too... that would be incredible.

don't you just love making history??? Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:29 pm

Wow what an awesome photo!!
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:55 am


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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:20 am

Nice one mate , the thread seems to have arroused allot of interest, we do have the usual fruitbat posts but that's to be expected lol, we shall see how it develops .

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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:53 am

See, first thoughts 'amazing photo' but then my rational side kicks in and then I think;

Doesn't it look like the shadow of a peron

The way it's positioned, looks like the shadow has it's arms bent up, like it's taking a photo. Light in a tunnel bounces about like a hyper kid.

I would be tempted to go back and recreate the situation, see if it is actually the shadow of the photographer.
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:02 pm

Here is the video from the night and look at it from another angle. It is the last three flashes that we are interested in as this is when the shadow appeared in the pictures taken;

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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:45 pm

Hi Jojo,

Yeah it does look like the shadow of a person, the problem is there is no way- as far as I can tell from the picture and other info- that a shadow of those proportions could be projected on to that wall at that distance. For a person to cast that exact shadow in these circumstances, they would pretty much have to be stood directly in front of the shadow (at a direct angle to the camera and flash) and probably within 10-50cm from the wall.

For the same reason this also rules out the idea that another flash from behind could project the photographers shadow onto the wall- the proportions are completely out and the flash from the camera in front would simply 'fill in' the gaps of light.

The flash from the camera is so bright that any other light source would not compete with it. It's virtually impossible for a shadow to be in the path of the flash without something solid in the space between the camera and the wall. This also rules out the shadow from being cast from any other angle (such as from down a corridor adjacent to the shadow.

The only possibilities I can think of...

The picture is a hoax
The shadow is due to some unknown technical fault
The shadow isn't a shadow, but something that absorbs light, rather then reflecting it.



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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:09 pm

tripod picture lightened...

Am i right in thinking that I can see the 2nd camera on the left?

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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:44 pm

This from a friend on ATS who is looking at this shadow picture...
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Ive spent 3 hours on this image so far and its starting to get interesting

Im starting to get detail now (is still faint), in the clothes, and figure.. Ive found a face, so will start working on that next.

Would love to know what the german crew were wearing, just to rule that out.. but the clothes dont look that modern. lol.

so i am eagerly waiting for the result.


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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:03 pm

just received this..


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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:28 am

Shocked Shocked Shocked

OMG ITS DARTH VADER!!!



Sorry ill shut up now.... Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:45 pm

To be honest , i cannot make much out on this photo just looks blured to me .

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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:01 pm

I now can see what he's done and it's a very good job..
check this link Smile

Enjoy Smile

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread660675/pg4#pid10603755

good effort in my opinion..

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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:25 pm

Now, that is interesting!

Although I think that the facial features are due to matrixing. The hood certainly isn't, because it has distinct outlines over the face. the way it looks to me is, that the head is slightly turned. I don't think that the figure is a monk!

Look at this:

Helmet German soldier WW1


Helmet German soldier WW2


Coat German soldier WW1+2


Prussian officer's coat and Husar's uniform (couldn't find a more detailed image)


I also remember having seen a WW1 or 2 soldier's coat with shoulder cape, I just can't find a picture of it.

I really doubt that the figure is a monk. The location is a casemate and was always used for military purposes only. The Prussian and Gerrman army had their priests and vicars, but I am quite certain, that they didn't employ monks.


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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:28 am

Yes ive got to agree with arwen,, i mean the first time i saw that enlarged photo i did see that helmet shape first, i know i joked saying Darth vader but now looking at the pics that youve posted arwen it looks even clearer and ive also seen old war pics with a robe that would look similar too, very interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing photo   Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:41 am

would you have said that you see a helmet if Arwen hadn't have mentioned it before , this is not meant to be negative but it looks to me as though this could be a case of paradolia , in my opinion this is just a photo that wil have to remain unexplained .

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